What a couple of days!! Needed a puncture repaired yesterday on my wife’s car so was only able to post the results but did manage to get the bets on and today I was caught up in that disaster area called Oxford with no way round it as my last delivery this morning was in Bicester. So I am sat with a great big Gin and Tonic This post will serve as both information and results Wednesday saw a good winner in Phoenix Passion yielding a £6.75 profit giving an overall profit for the month of £7.36.
Hugh Taylor tipped 3 horses yesterday and the same format for my bets remains the same with the exception of Half Moon Rising which runs in the 5:10 at Haydock and is first to run and is an e/w bet. For this I worked out the stake needed for the £5.00 profit and simply did an e/w bet at S.P doubling the stake so to speak. As I mentioned Half Moon Rising ran first at Haydock in the 5:10 Advised Odds were 28/1 (29.0) By the time i was able to get a bet on the odds had dropped to 11/1 (12) so the stake was 45p E/W this being a total of 90p
I did think that this might have had a halfway chance as SkyBet were paying 4 places, should have known better but the odds did drift not as much to the advised price but to 18/1 (19.0) Next on the card was Alpen Power running at Chelmsford in the 6:45 and I backed it for £1.50 at S.P. which means that the odds available must have been around 10/3 (4.33) from an advised price of 9/2
As you can see the price continued to shorten until post time Finally and when I was on my way to Dagenham for my first delivery Divine Breath ran in the 8:15 also at Chelmsford. Backed at S.P. at odds relating to a £5.00 profit of 11/8 (2.38) down from advised odds of 2/1 (3.0)
The odds recovered a bit, not to the level of the advised price but enough to give me an extra £1.34 over my £5.00 target. So another win yesterday has increased my Monthly profit to £11.30.
Next post will be Todays selections and bet amounts.
Further to my post on Bookies and Tipsters I will be following Hugh Taylors Tips and Backing each one for a £5.00 Profit with SkyBet. Not at the advised odds but at whatever odds are available at the time but because Skybet like to pay out on extra places and offer few races with Best Odds Guaranteed I will be backing them at SP with a stake that will give a £5.00 profit at the odds given at the time.
Four selections today and going into the 5th day with a profit of £3.78 First selection to run today is
4:27 Nottingham : Phoenix Passion Advised Odds 5/2 (3.5) Odds available at 10:00 : 13/8 (2.63) Stake £3.07 Result –
Second to run is
5:35 Kempton : Remaat Advised Odds 11/1 (12.0) Odds available at 10:00 : 3/1 (4.0) Stake £1.67 Result –
Odds of 3/1 taken as SkyBet are offering Best Odds Guaranteed
The third Selection was City House in 7:15 at Kempton but has been withdrawn and is a non-runner.
Fourth and Final Selection today is 7:45 Kempton : Miss Kubelik Advised Odds 9/2 (5.5) Odds available at 10.00 10/3 (4.33) Stake £1.50 Result –
Good Luck all – need it – these bets take me into a Loss state 😂
Further to my post on Bookies and Tipsters I will be following Hugh Taylors Tips and Backing each one for a £5.00 Profit with SkyBet. Not at the advised odds but at whatever odds are available at the time but because Skybet like to pay out on extra places and offer few races with Best Odds Guaranteed I will be backing them at SP with a stake that will give a £5.00 profit at the odds given at the time.
Only one selection today and is as Follows
Lingfield 8:15 Advised Odds 9/1 (10.0) Odds available at 09:30 : 4/1 (5.0) Stake 1.25 Result –
Further to my post on Bookies and Tipsters I will be following Hugh Taylors Tips and Backing each one for a £5.00 Profit with SkyBet. Not at the advised odds but at whatever odds are available at the time but because Skybet like to pay out on extra places and offer few races with Best Odds Guaranteed I will be backing them at SP with a stake that will give a £5.00 profit at the odds given at the time.
Only one selection today and is as Follows
6:10 Hamilton Cargin Bhui Advised Odds 11/4 (3.75) Odds available at 10:30 : 2/1 (3.0) Stake 2.50 Result –
Further to my post on Bookies and Tipsters I will be following Hugh Taylors Tips and Backing each one for a £5.00 Profit with SkyBet. Not at the advised odds but at whatever odds are available at the time but because Skybet like to pay out on extra places and offer few races with Best Odds Guaranteed I will be backing them at SP with a stake that will give a £5.00 profit at the odds given at the time.
Todays Selections are as follows
2.00 Epsom Downs : Sea of Thieves Advised Odds 14/1 Odds available at 10:30 : 9/1 Stake 56p Result –
3.10 Epsom Downs : Billy Webster Advised Odds 10/1 Odds available at 10:30 6/1 Stake 83p Result –
5.15 Epsom Downs : Relentless Voyager Advised Odds 13/2 Odds available at 10:30 4/1 Stake £1.25 Result
6.15 Doncaster : Wild Waves Advised Odds 9/2 Odds available at 10:30 5/2 Stake £2.00 Result –
I recently watched a youtube video by Caan Berry, who, quite accurately, put forward a case for not backing online tipsters as the odds very quickly diminished as soon as or even before the tip was published online. Conspiracy theorists would have you believe that there may be some collusion between tipsters and bookies that would enable bookies to make a bigger margin on the tips that lose and perhaps cutting the online platform that published them a bigger affiliate payout. There is no doubt that odds do disappear very quickly but in the bigger picture of racing as a whole to keep the odds low on a horse just because a tipster tipped that horse could prove very expensive for bookies if another horse with better ability and was being backed towards the start of the race stayed at the bigger odds and went on to win. Bookies are scaredy cats, money going onto other horses will lower their odds, its a fact! It is true that if a tipster has a big and loyal following then those punters will undoubtably blind bet on the selection for fear of the odds dropping even more, this is bonanza time for the bookies. They take pots of cash at crap odds on a horse trying not to split their sides laughing at all the punters doing their bank blindly. What is a little more concerning is that on some bookies sites “Best Odds Guaranteed” doesn’t kick in until an hour or more after the tip is published so they don’t have to payout at the bigger price if the odds drift. That’s the conspiracy part over now I will look at some facts and as Caan Berry singled out Hugh Taylor of At The Races Website I will look at his results from April 2024 (His latest complete results available).
In April Hugh Taylor had 65 tips in total claiming a 30.09 point profit for the month at advised odds and stakes. Of these 65 tips 3 were E/W tips and for the purposes of this post I am going to discount them as I personally rarely back E/W bets. Many of you reading this may disagree, this is your choice and you could apply the same staking method that I will outline in this post to all of his tips, that is your own personal possible course of action. The purpose of this post is not to condemn any one party whether it is Taylor himself the website for misleading information or the bookies for offering criminal odds, it is to analyze the timings of the tips published and the reaction of the markets to these tips and most importantly what the actual SP of the tip was at the off. To make this a fair study I am going to stake each tip with a profit if wins of £5.00 on the advised odds, Industry SP and the Betfair exchange SP. I know that the minimum bet on the exchange is now £1.00 and the stakes you will see on many of these selections is way lower than that but these lower stakes are possible if you use software that allows this such as bet angel ( I will put a link to this at the bottom of the post)
To achieve a level profit target figure the calculation is simple.
Stake = Target / (Odds-1)
If we look at Taylors first tip of the month which was Twilight Madness in the 16:05 at Kempton on 1st April he advised odds of 12.0 (11/1) so the stake for this bet would be
Stake = 5 /(12-1) = 45p Unfortunately I have no way of knowing how far the odds dropped just after tip publication but the horse did go off at the same odds and on the exchange the BSP was 15.67. Figures courtesy of Timeform who publishes these figures for reference purposes) The horse lost of course (Last actually) so our losses would have been Tip publication Time (If actually available) -45p Bookmakers SP -45p Betfair exchange SP -34p. As you can see we would be better off by 11p if we had used the excchange to place our bet. The following excel sheet lists all of Hugh Taylors tips for April except for the E/W bets.
Of the 62 remaining tips after discounting the E/W bets you can see that a total of 15 won and using the staking method outlined above the profit to the advised odds of just £6.01. If we had backed the same horses at the industry S.P. you can see that we would have won nearly twice as much and better yet before commission is taken from the exchange bets three times as much. So, there is a case for backing Taylors tips. He has a strike rate of about 25% but the profits are not breathtaking.
Conclusion. Hugh Taylors tips are for free, there is no subscription to pay, and if you keep your stakes to a manageable level there is no reason why you shouldnt have a couple of bets each day. There is however another option – we can lay these tips and then back them just before post time!
We know that the bookies lower the odds just after publication and that perhaps the more savvy amongst us back them on the exchange to get a closer price to advised odds than backing them at the bookmaker. This acts to cause the exchange market to react in the same way as the bookies price lowering and the exchange market starts to reflect the industry prices more closely. If you look at the spreadsheet above you will notice that in most of the tips the exchange S.P. is quite a few ticks higher than even the advised price earlier in the day. This means that there is a possibility of a viable lay to back trade opportunity here.
Requesting your own “build a bet” is not as daunting as first supposed they can only say no or more probably not reply at all but in the cases where they do price your bet they sometimes feature it on the platform. Firstly you need to be armed with your own figures and an idea of what sort of markets you are going to put in to it. To this end I have the beginnings of a Workbook for the premiership which will list the following probable outcomes based on the seasons figures for each team involved. Full Time Goals Half Time Goals Match Shots Match Shots on Target Match Fouls Match Corners Booking Points BTTS
The following is a screen Shot of the stats and actual results from the 2nd game of the season Arsenal v Notts Forest
Arsenal v Notts Forest Sat 12 Aug 2023
The data on the left is collated from all the games Arsenal played at home in the premiership in the season 22/23 and all the games Notts Forest played away in the season The figures on the right are the actual stats from the game played. As you can see the predictions were right on all counts save total shots and the BTTS predictions.
The following games were played that first league week Burnley v Manchester City – No Data
Arsenal v Nott’m Forest – As Above
Bournemouth v West Ham
Bournemouth v West Ham Sat 12 Aug 23
Brighton v Luton – No Data
Sheffield Utd v Crystal Palace – No Data
Newcastle v Aston Villa
Newcastle Utd v Aston Villa Sat 12 Aug 23
Brentford V Tottenham
Brentford v Tottenham Sun 13 Aug 23
Chelsea v Liverpool
Chelsea v Liverpool Sun 13 Aug 23
Man Utd v Wolves
Man Utd v Wolves Mon 14 Aug 23
As you can see from the above screenshots there was just one match which was a winner with all selections coming in.
Nott’m Forest v Sheffield Utd – No Data
Fulham v Brentford – 0-3
Fulham v Brentford Sat 19 Aug 23
Liverpool v Bournemouth – 3-1
Liverpool v Bournemouth Sat 19 Aug 23
Wolves v Brighton – 1-4 Note – The actual corners leg won as the prediction was 8+ ie 8 or more but the bet still lost on the BTTS leg ( I will explain the intricates of the bets below as some bookmakers interpret the wording of bets differently to others)
Wolves v Brighton Sat 19 Aug 23
Tottenham v Man Utd – 2-0
Tottenham v Man Utd Sat 19 Aug 23
Man City v Newcastle Utd – 1-0
Man City v Newcastle Utd Sat 19 Aug 23
Aston Villa v Everton – 4-0
Aston Villa v Everton Sun 20 Aug 23
West Ham v Chelsea – 3-1
West Ham v Chelsea Su 20 Aug 23
Crystal Palace v Arsenal – 0-1
Crystal Palace v Arsenal Mon 21 Aug 23
Luton Town v Burnley – No Data This match was postponed until 3rd Oct 23
Week 2 saw two of our bet builder bets winning but we are regularly being let down by the BTTS selection but I am getting a degree of success with this workbook when I back test Week 3 saw another two builda bets coming in Bournemouth v Tottenham and Newcastle v Liverpool with 2 more being let down by the BTTS leg.
What odds can you expect to get with these bets? That depends on the bookmakers who are willing to price these bets up! You can request these bets via the twitter (or X as it is now known) by using the individual betting sites hash tag address and I found that if you sent your request to them with all of the bookies hash tags in the message then whether or not they thought they might be in competition with each other the odds tended to come back slightly better. The following was one such bet I requested for the Leicester City v West Brom game on 20th April
Typical request a bet post
I got a quick response from Coral with favourable odds of 7/1 (8.0) I also got a message from SkyBet saying that I could build this bet on there platform but this was not strictly true as they didn’t offer some of the legs that I requested. But it is always wise to shop around.
This bet lost 🙄 on the corners leg as I requested a price on the Over 10.5 instead of 10+ market If I had worded this as “10+ Corners” it would have won!!! as there was exactly 10 corners in the match
Lastly I will provide this work in Progess worksheet for you to backtest the entire season if you wish however the 3 promoted sides last season – Burnley, Luton and Sheffield Utd will have no data for the 22/23 season
Going into day 3 I have an overall profit of £9.99 over the first two days of the trial. If you have missed these posts then they can be seen by cliccking the link below Day 1 Day 2
there are also links at the bottom of the post.
Day 3 saw a total of 156 bets matched at betfair with an average stake value of 57p of which 52 dogs that were favourite 20 seconds from post time on betfair exchange went on to win their race. However this 33.3% of winning bets were not sufficient enough to produce a profit on the day. The figure was a loss of £3.24 – just 2 more winners would have seen a profit on the day.
The best performing track for favourites today was Suffolk Downs with a profit of £4.51 producing 7 winning favourites, 3 of these favourites came from trap 5 – another statistic which could help us in the future if you decide to pit wits in the trap challenge. but this is a subject for subsequent postings on this subject.
So after 3 days of the trial the 3 best performing tracks are Doncaster (£5.87) Romford (£5.24) Clonmel (£4.10) The 3 worst performing tracks are Towcester (-£3.46) Yarmouth (-£4.43) Sunderland (-£4.52) The full list is shown below
My total profit over the 3 days has now dwindled to £6.75 from £13.41 on day 1 (I wonder what the P/L would have been on the 1st of march if I had got my ducks in a row sooner. Having said that, making sure the software puts the correct bets in at the correct time is paramount especially if you are going to just leave it running throughout the day!
I am starting to build up some sort of data base now so I will begin to list best performing trap, distance and race class as we go along.
Best performing Trap (No of times trap Won over 3 days – not P/L) Trap 6 (won 82 times out of 467 races over 3 days) Best performing distance (No of Times favourite won over distance ) 480m (Favourite won 30 times out of 70 races run over 480m over 3 days) Best Performing Race Class A7 – Favourite won 17 times out of 30 A7 races run over 3 days producing a profit of £10.52! There were 7 A7 races run over a distance of 480m of which the favourite won 4 times producing a profit of £2.65 in the first 3 days of the trial.
As you can see the further I get into the trial I can build a picture of which race class and distance would be beneficial to focus on.
For a while now I have been pondering the possibility of backing the favourite at the dogs to see if there is any money to be made. Even though the rumours that greyhound racing is not the most virtuous sport you can make a wager on it is certainly the most abundant sport with over 140 races each day and that is just the UK. According to the Oxford Stadium website 35% of all favourites win! This however is across all tracks, distances and, classes of race. To this end I decided that the only true way of sorting the wheat from the chaff is to back every single favourite in every single race and use the power of excel to weed out losing statistics from the more profitable. So without ado I will post day by day findings on this blog
My criteria is simple I will back each race favourite 20 seconds before the post time to a liability of just £1.00 so in effect my average stake should be kept to about 30p per race. This means that should the favourite win then the Profit will be £1.00 and if loses the stake determined by the odds that are available at that moment in time on the betfair exchange. There have been instances where the odds of two of the dogs have been exactly the same at the 20 second point and no bet was struck. This is unfortunate but one of those things. After testing that the software worked as required on March 1st testing began in earnest on March 2nd and showed an overall profit of £13.41 with profits showing from all meetings except Crayford and Hove.
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Starting with Central Park, there were a total of 6 winning favourites giving a small profit of £2.66 The rest I will put into a table for easy reference.
Track
Winning Favs
Avg Stake
P/L
Crayford
1
45p
-£3.85
Doncaster
9 (2 Meetings)
69p
£4.73
Hove
6
£1.43 **
-£0.51
Monmore
10 (2 Meetings)
57p
£2.44
Newcastle
6
48p
£1.69
Oxford
8 (2 Meetings
63p
£1.26
Perry Barr
8
47p
£1.48
Romford
10 (2 Meetings)
53p
£3.03
Swindon
4
49p
£0.48
** Quite a few Odds On Favs Lost!!!
Crayford was quite obviously not a track to back the favourite on this day as just one favourite won, Hove had a few odds on favourites running hence the average stake of £1.43 with the shortest priced favourite of the day losing costing a massive £3.12 All in all not a bad day for the first day. There were a total of 160 races of which 64 favourites won giving a 40% win rate.
Lets go on to look at the best performing meeting of the day which was Doncaster. Producing an overall profit of £4.73 with 9 winning favourites at the 2 meetings. Of the 8 winning favourites 4 were in OR class races or Open Class and scored a 100% strike rate as did the OR3 class which accounted for 2 more winning favs. The sheer volume of information I have collected just over the last 20 days is by no means enough and in subsequent posts I will delve a little deeper into which tracks are more profitable than others using this system and which Races should be avoided on all counts after looking at the stats.
Just as a Taster the best performing track using this system between 2 March and 22 march is Nottingham with a profit of £15.89 The worst Track for winning Favourites is Sunderland with a loss of £22.03
My total profit for this period backing every race is £38.28
When you embark upon trading any sport whether it is football, racing or tennis it is so easy to watch youtube videos of trading situations and think “this is easy” and jump straight into a market and lose your bank! While in depth research can be time consuming and at points seem repetitive some basic research should be undertaken if only to improve your chances of a better strike rate on your trades. The inescapable fact about trading is no matter how well you have researched a game, match or race you will not get a profit everytime, there will always be that odd market that will go against you. Everyone on Youtube bangs on about “Risk to Reward” and it is a very viable point and the first thing you should look at is exactly how far a market is likely to move against you should a worst case scenario happen – because like as not it will probably happen. For instance: If you are trading an Under 2.5 goals market in a football match you should try and establish what the probable odds would move to if an early goal was scored before your exit point was reached. How you do this is up to you but personally I use Soccer Mystic which is a great tool that comes with Bet Angel but that is a subject for another post but the essence is to know beforehand what two exit points you would employ should the trade go against you or if you are successful. What research material is available for tennis and in-play odds that will help you in this task. The main source that I use is Tennis Trader which is a software product that comes with BetAngel. Once configured to the match you are planning to trade on you can see at a glance at what odds the market would likely be trading at if, for instance, you were laying the server in a tennis match and he/she won the game. The screenshot below shows the GAME Matrix for the 1st Game in the match between Gracheva and Galfi in the 1st round of the WTA French Open
In this match Gracheva is odds on favourite to win the match at odds of 1.36. If we were to lay her as server in this first game for a £10 stake our liability would be just £3.60. We know by looking at this matrix and following a path of events (by this I mean the points won or lost) we can quite acuratly know that if she won the game then in all likelyhood the market would move against us by just 3 or 4 ticks – See below.
If, however, Galfi plays a stroke of genius and wins the first two points then the market would move in our favour by about 10 ticks. as shown below.
From this information we can now establish some exit points that we would feel comfortable with once we have worked out what our maximum loss is likely to be. To do this we can use a simple hedge calculator as found on GoalProfits.com To work out our likely loss on this trade we simple enter the figures as shown below:
This shows that if Gracheva wins her service game and we exit at the end of the game we are only likely to lose 23p. Now that we know our likely loss on the game we can choose our exit point should Galfi win a couple of points early on in the game by doing exactly the same using the figures on the bottom of the matrix.
If Galfi won the first 2 points in the game and exited the trade at Grachevas odds of 1.46 then our profit would be 67p
Once we have established our risk to reward we can have a look at the match itself and there are various websites available to us and a favourite of mine is tennisexplorer.com and what I am looking for is any previous Head to Head matches these two have played and what surfaces to determine any trends.
We can see that on clay (depicted by the brown square) in 2019 the sets were quite close until the final set. This could suggest that games swing to and fro in early stages of the match and some further investgation is warranted. Recent form can play a big part in the research and Flashscore.com can provide point by point results of previous matches. If we now look at the first set of Galfi’s recent matches and in particular the first few games we can get a feel for how the games progress.
In these 3 recent matches you can see in Galfis’ first service game she can be a bit unsettled with points bouncing between the players and while this is going on the market is moving suggesting a trade possibility. We can now look at the same thing about her opponent
In Gracheva’s first service games it suggests that she is more aggressive winning her games with the least amount of serves in the early stages of the match. The distinct possiblity of a back to lay trade on Grachevas first service game seems viable. This is just some basic research into one match. Lets have a look what happened.
Gracheva was serving first and won her service game with ease – just 4 points played. Below is the log of this game which was captured by Betangel automation and it shows the odds every 30 seconds throughout the match and how they bounce around. This particular screenshot shows the first 3 minutes of the match and as you can see Gracheva’s odds started at 1.36 and hit a low of 1.23 – a drop of 13 ticks.
I am laughing out loud now 🤣 because if you look at the begining of the post I showed you the likely odds would drop by just 3 or 4 ticks if the first game ended like this and I think that I didn’t calibrate tennis trader before I grabbed the screen – oops I stand by the suggested trade though as the basic research showed Gracheva to be an aggressive first game player and we could still have determined our likley exit point had the trade gone against us.